Good looking out. I have been blinded up until now. Maybe I should repeat your mantra and I too will believe you…. a true hawk… a true hawk…a true hawk…a change is gona come…a change is gonna come….uncle pookie get off the couch and vote (Obama’s words not mine)…a change is a coming.

YES!!! I too believe a change is gonna come!!! Why does Obama need to play dirty politics and lie when his supporters can do it for him Keep this up McCain will win for sure!!!

Let’s hope we have all taken the day/night to let cooler heads prevail and come to the realization that we really could have a Democrat in the WHite House in 2009!!

It seems that these debates and posts have turned a little hostile. So, I pose this scenario to both Clinton and Obama supporters. At the last couple of debates and in the press there have been questions surfacing about a unified Democratic ticket. It seems like an interesting notion but given how divisive these camps have been I find it hard to envision this unified ticket.

Below are my questions to both Hillary and Brack supporters:

Obama supporters:

1. Would you support a ticket with Obama as the Presidential nominee and CLinton as VP?

2. Would you support a ticket with Hillary as the Pres. nominee and Barack as the VP?

3. If Barack wins the nod who is your ideal candidate for the VP nomination?

4. If Barack does not win the nod and Hillary does but Barack is not on the ticket would you vote for Hillary? If no, then what would you do?

1. Would you support a ticket with CLinton as the Presidential nominee and Barack as VP?

2. Would you support a ticket with Barack as the Pres. nominee and Hillary as the VP?

3. If Clinton wins the nod who is your ideal candidate for the VP nomination?

4. If Hillary does not win the nod and Barack does but Hillary is not on the ticket would you vote for Barack? If, no then what would you do?

This should make for some interesting dialogue. I will check back in later to see what people are saying.

Happy almost Friday…

Double Kisses

Also just an FYI for those paying attention…there’s rumblings here in Michigan about US and Florida getting another vote before the convention, since the seating of our Delegates that Hillary schemed up on, will undoubtedly result in lawsuits that the Democratic Party do not want any part of!!

1. Your crack about looking up admonish was weak and so not worthy of an LOL.

2. Gurl you have no clue what a resume looks like if you think that saying I graduated from college even reflects one. I said it because clearly someone brought up th epoint of uneducated voters for Hillary which is SO ON TOPIC! Secondly, it doesn’t matter if people address me directly , in the case of uneducated voters. If I am offended I have the tight to voice my opinion.

3. The Beyonce point you made still continues to not hold water…at all and has no comparison to the two women. You mentioned some garbage excuse about the media being blinded by adoration of HILLARY!!! I already addressed that in my posting after that. You have the gall to talk about the way the media views Hillary when people are basically wetting their pants over OBAMA!

Numero Uno you are a jokester…really and truly. You don’t know me so to say gain a real friend is just utterly stupid.

Who posted a resume..with the text limitations on this forum I find that to be impossible! Whoever did it you better WORK…seriously you could find a job that way

I am not sure what the comment on grease is but I suppose it’s about typos. As I stated to Nick I embrace mine lovingly…everyone makes mistakes. Clearly my comments about typos was sarcastic commnetary on the definition of an educated person and what exactly that means. If you don’t get it then too bad.

As for my sister I had no intention of mentioning her again until Nick profanely referenced her in a posting of his own. It suprises me that you talk about my language yet you do not admonish those same comments at people like Nick…no instead you defend them PLEASE!!!

AGAIN with the Beyonce comment it was not being a smartmouth I seriously thought it was funny and still yet no one has made the connection for me. Albeit, you tried but it was a lame and unsuccessful attempt. I doubt anyone ever will come up with a decent explanation.

All I ask is that you stop making assumptions about what I mean…it’s so unnecessary. If you need clarification just say so and I will post a response. Don’t jump to conclusions it’s not very becoming…

double kisses xx

(crickets)

repeating: don’t throw grease if you don’t like it thrown back. now for all of the people who feel the need to explain their status in life as a real point…please!!! again, stats are stats, polls are polls, don’t take EVERY word so literally. no one said every single person supporting hillary is a dumb crackhead 6th grade dropout, (even tho some get mad as if it was said…insecure much?) so to list your resume on here is unnecessary & funny, for real. and regardless of what you have or have not accomplished in life, it doesn’t justify any more or any less barack obama or hillary clinton. or maybe it just makes you feel warm & fuzzy, so for those who post their personal stats, i have a fresh batch of cookies, yum!

cuz i’ma is a dokter and i votid foor hoo i want too….silly right…EXACTLY

The comment about my sister was towards Numer Uno who had an exchange with her this afternoon. She or He (not really sure Numero uno I can’t tell from your psotings if you are male or female)wanted to know why my sister’s postings were so different than mine (i.e., more respectful and not condescending) and why she had not responded.

So in other words Nick no one was talking to you when I mentioned my sister. Do you need further clarification on that point???

Oh yeah and you did not have a typo…you used the words wrong…very different. But, that’s ok a little 4th grade brush up in English will work that all out!!!

MEOWWWWWW

WOW your language in your post is so menacing, I find it sexy

My responses are usually sarcastic. As I pointed out to Numero Uno I only brought up the issue of typos (or in your case NICK just flat out the wrong usage of the words i.e.,ONE=WON BRAKE=BREAK) AFTER (THAT MEANS FOLLOWING) PEOPLE MAKING COMMENTS ABOUT HILLARY SUPPORTERS AND THEIR INTELLIGENCE OR LACK OF EDUCATION.

Don’t get all offended and take it personal. I have tons of typos and embrace them lovingly. You should as well…

PS I like the idea of you calling me catty and childish but it’s too long to use as a description mabye next time you can try using:

CATTISH- means part catty part childish also known as meanmina…I love it.

PURRRRR

I certainly wasn’t patting anyone on the back about the beyonce remark but I just found it funny and have yet to still see the comparison. Your explanation made no sense whatsoever because it never connected it to Hillary!

Just as you can speak to who you please…I can implore as well. All I ask is don’t make ASSumptions it’s not a good look for you. We both have postings riddled with typos probably because I am typing furiously trying to avoid getting busted at work…anyone feel me on that

I like the debate and the back and forth but I do not like the implications made about my or any other Hillary supporters overall intelligence.

My sister is respectful and probably hasn’t read the rude comments about Hillary or the fact that people have implied we have no education. Don’t expect a reaction from her though. The language on here can be a bit offensive to her. But, I LUV IT!! I am all about drama

OMG… did someone compare the media reaction to Hillary to how the media retreat BEYONCE!!!! That is way too funny. Please do explain further!!!!

This is HILARIOUS!!!!
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that is not a pat on the back…that is laughter and condescending toward that person’s comment. why is it hilarious? what i find hilarious is how you keep trying to check folks yet your comments are ALSO riddled with grammatical errors and such…btw, how does the media “RETREAT” beyonce<<<yeah, that was a shot! come off of the soap box and open your mind to all comments-since you address a number of them. and do not implore me to do or stop doing anything…i can speak to whoever i please because i do not use distractions to drive my points home. now if that is beneath you as well, then perhaps you shouldn’t respond. that was the earlier refence i made. i shall not respond to something off-topic if my comment is referenced

p.s. i am wondering what big-dog political sites you comment on? i mean ones where celebrity-speak truly WOULD be inappropriate. i’m sure you won’t reply, but if LBS is the place where you come to school people without running with large or specific circles of POLITIKERS (my word) who dig their heels in on this election, then hmmmmmm…..also, your sister commented and i replied. why does she have a different effect? and my reply was…..right, just as respectful. so, YOU should take note!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGeu_4Ekx-o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzFOOcEQtP0&feature=related

and i’m sure the beyonce reference was to infer that some people are so blinded by their adoration of whomever that they become bullies to those who oppose. i know i’ve seen plenty of beyonce postings where this young lady can pretty much put a wet dog on her head and wear a hefty cinch sack and if someone were to dare speak against it…OFF WITH THEHIR HEADS-lol! oh, and you JUST MISSPELLED “BECAUSE” check it!

We have had long conversations about this election. I asked her to come and leave a comment because there are actually some Obama supporters on here making a decent case for their candidate and then of course there are people like #1 and 7….so sad.

Well, officially I am back to posting as meanmina becasue this election has me riled up and I will continue to support my candidate until the very end!!!

Only the strong survive!!!!

I know everyone is not POLITICALLY (that’s the correct spelling Numero Uno take note…) astute ….but I have a sense of humor and am willing to hear out the reason why how the media treats Hillary and Beyonce can be compared. Does everyone call Beyonce a bitch, too emotional, too cold, too rigid and shrill? I DOUBT THAT!!! It is the illest comparison but I invite the person who made the comment to prove me wrong.

ONCE again NUMERO UNO I implore you to not reference my name or initals if you are going to only make assumptions about my comments.

As for this being lovebscott, NO KIDDING!!! But this partular post is about the elections there are hundreds of other forums where you can easily reference MIMI and Ms. B. That is not to say you can’t bring them up but at least make a point when you do it or have some facts to back it up!

Vote for the candidate who is the best fit for the job. No, experience isn’t always the best and/or only way to pick someone for job. However, it shows their track record and what they have accomplished. That’s why I’ve voted for HILLARY in my states’ primary and I will be voting for her in the Presidential election.

FYI: I’m an African-American male, mid-twenties working on my law degree from a private university in the South. So, if I’ve read some of the posts correctly, I should be voting for Obama because HILLARY supporters are idiots.

That’s not gonna happen…..

No need to wonder – why don’t you check the exit polls? They show that clearly Obama won the vast majority of Republicans and Independents. Last month all the Obama folks were saying Obama should be nominee because he can win over the “Obamacans;” now the story line is the Republicans voted for Hillary because she’s the one they want to face. Everyone is entitled to their own interpretation of the facts, but let’s all deal with the same FACTS please. It just looks desperate to try to grasp at any explanation why Obama lost. Here’s a clue – once he gets FAIR coverage in the media rather than the fawning adoration his sky high positives are going to come down to earth and people will see him for what he is – a politician just like Hillary. He’ll spin the facts to favor his side just as Hillary will. He’ll say one thing to the voters of Ohio regarding NAFTA and what he will do to renegotiate when he is president, just like he argued against the war before he came to the Senate and has had identical voting record to Hillary. The Obama folks are feeling like their candidate is being treated unfairly because he has gotten 1 week of quasi-inquisitive treatment from the press (they are not being critical yet – they accept what he has to say at face value until the Canadian media gets to the truth of the matter). At the end of the day, Obama will be the John Edwards of 2004 for the 2008 campaign. Egged on to run by his supporters because of his talent and capacity to inspire with rhetoric, but he is too green, too inexperienced, half his time in the Senate spent trying to become President so much so he doesn’t hold a single hearing on Afghanistan. I hope that a failed campaign won’t hinder him from running in 2016 after Hillary’s tenure. The campaign has just begun and Hillary is a fighter. She is experienced. And she is the one I believe has the vision and capability to lead this country.

This is HILARIOUS!!!!

You’re just as guilty of being venomous in this discussion as anyone else. In fact, you just applauded the most venomous post in this entire discussion…

Brandon: At this point it doesn’t even make sense to argue their points as to why Hillary won. It’s hard to pull together those kind of excuses when you were so expecting it to be over. In cases like these you need to think on your feet and be prepared.

The race isn’t over there is still time your boy can still win. It just won’t be as easy as people have made it for him. The SNL skit is satire yet it somehow woke up the media. They haven’t been nicer to Hillary but they are getting a little tougher on Barack…as they should. I am excited at the thought of a real race between these two.

I am happy with our progres yesterday and look forward to the next debate!!!!

RING RING!!!!

1) His lead over her in college graduates was now nearly large enough to make the argument that the Obama supporter is “smarter” than the Hillary supporter. What was it? 10 0r 11 points? Please.

2) Your argument is still misleading. The vote of a college grad is by no means better or smarter. MeanMina said something like this earlier and she was EXACTLY on the mark. Though I’m a college grad myself, I work a desk job for a corporation. For the time being, I am nothing but a corporate ant in the big city right now. How am I to say that just because I went to college my vote is somehow better than the vote of a man who, even though he didn’t go to college, runs a farm or the family business and is well-versed and experienced with the economic issues that were very important in Texas and Ohio and in fact carried Hillary to victory? You see, it can be spun either way.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/14/us/politics/14delegates.html?hp

SMH”

Shake your head all you want. What you’re not doing is proving me wrong. And I’m not. Even most political commentators have admitted that Hillary Clinton has always had to do the fighting to be recognized, and that all Obama has to do is not make any major mistakes.

Brandon33

I stopped reading that lengthy dissertation after you said: Obama has pretty much just to stand there and LOOK the part of the president that’s going to create Change out of thin air.

SMH

Just admit you’re done. I’m not about to continue a petty back and forth with you over semantics. So you didn’t say YOUTH. My point still stands: your argument that more college educated people vote for Obama leaves out the senior vote which includes a wealth of college educated and also somehow implies that the vote of the college educated somehow means more. Your argument is completely misleading.

NICK:

“An ugly fact hasn’t been adequately covered by the press: Ohio exit polls reveal that 20% said race was an important factor and 80% of those chose Hillary. That’s 16% of the vote—based on racism–which is more than Hillary’s margin of victory. Compared to earlier states, Ohio has fewer college degrees and more racism, so Hillary’s bashing and fear-mongering worked in that fertile field of ignorance and prejudice.”

Ok? and Obama took 89% of the black vote in Ohio. You’re a fool is you think racism isn’t a factor for BOTH sides, if it’s even an important factor at all.

BTW there is a difference between mispelling and mistyping DUH!!! I believe I noted that in my posting to NICK…not you but NICK!!

But, since you want to come to his defense please explain to me
how someone can confuse the words ONE and WON!!!

On another note that post was all about my sarcastic side…please do not reference my name again unless you have something worthy to say about the elections. DOUBLE KISSES…mwah mwah

have fun people!

My comment about the Mimi sidebar was not related to intelligence. it was more like ….and what is your point!!! I don’t talk about other people’s intelligence (unless jokingly..see above posting) because I think there are so many ways to interpret intelligence. For example some of the smartest people in the world have no common sense or otherwise everyday intelligence.

You don’t need to graduate from college to be conisdered “educated”. I have been blessed with a college degree but I don’t consider myself smarter than a farmer with a high school degree who has his own dairy. You better believe that he could probably school us on a few things relative to being a businessman.

This notion of education is a very dangerous argument that I usually don’t beneath myself to discuss but since you wanted to make assumptions I thought I should set you straight.

Just like you told Brandon do not address your comments unless you are referencing what I wrote. I implore you to not make assumptions about what I mean …merely ask and I will tell you striaght up!

I guess when I clicked on this link I thought it was about politics and finding a reference, (even if it is a sidebar) to Mariah seemed silly to put it mildly.

If there was a point for the Mariah comment then by all means I would love to see how she relates to the greater discussion. Then again after re-reading the original post where seven2 calls Hillary a B$#CH I guess I should not have responded at all. I will choose to only respond to comments that do not harbor hate or resentment.

I have had really vigorous, intelligent and challenging discussions with a number of Obama supporters on the lovebscott forums and wasting my time with the two of you is no longer conducive to my goal of debating about the next PRESIDENT of the US.

Therefore, Numero Uno, thanks for opening my eyes… my time is precious

I’m just going to say it: your last post was crap.

The first paragraph has nothing to do with what we’re talking about. And if you were going for allegory, you still failed.

It’s called an election, Nick, and you have COMPLETELY fallen for the Obama line. “Bringing people together”? “New Politics”? You’ve really been duped. Obama is just as much the politician as anyone else, the only thing I’ll credit this man with is knowing his shtick and sticking to it. He’s been set up since 2004 to be the “good guy”. The guy who was going to “change politics in Washington”. He’s the antitheses of the Bush campaign. the people But one thing’s for certain: since the day he officially announced his candidacy he hasn’t been able to keep the Clinton name out of his mouth. And that’s what leads me to the most frustrating aspect of this election: Even when the media DOES go hard on Obama they hold back so much. When this steam engine of this election really got going Obama was trashing the Clinton campaign with EVERY opportunity. Every interview, every speech was filled with how Clinton wasn’t right for the job when he was…and the media just let him skate on by because was the fresh, personable underdog. In the initial debates Hillary couldn’t get a word in edgewise because Edwards and Obama were too busy double teaming her. Yet let Hillary even utter Obama’s name and suddenly every medio outlet is crying about how SHE’S turning this into a negative campaign. Completely unfair. And heaven forbid that she use the words of a black man against another black man, for suddenly she’s a racist to boot! But nobody says anything about the fact that, coming up to North Carolina, Obama knowingly put his hands up and let his supporters go to town on Hillary with accusations of racism. Funny how nobody from the Obama camp is trying that now.

And yet we’re supposed to believe that Obama’s losses in Texas and Ohio are due to the “Clinton slime machine”? Good one. Suddenly, the man fails and we’re have to believe every reason other than people just might not think he’s right for the job? The media goes tough on Obama for once and it’s the Clinton’s doing?

Your Obama is no saint, Nick. His hands aren’t clean. He is not incapable of failure. Hell, Texas and Ohio highlighted one particularly notable failure of his: the cockiness of counting Hillary out. If you took a look at his campaign these days you’d swear he already had the nomination for as much as he was going after McCain. Yesterday definitely forced him to shift priorities and the weeks leading up to it definitely proved something else: that the media is going to start asking him the tough questions and viewing him in such rose-colored light. Lets see how he does now.

where did you EVER see YOUTH in my posts…any of them? i can’t see your post? can you even see AT ALL!?!?! thanks for swagger jacking my “next” at the end….true clintonite…HA HA HA!! this is fun…let’s keep the party going!

“What is this world turing into??”<<<TURNING
“I am a true Hillary supporter and although I am heappy she proved…”<<<HAPPY
“I am thoroughly disgusted with this notion of undeucated peple voting for Hillary”<<<UNEDUCATED

misspellings courtesy of MEANMINA…i wouldn’t go there if i were you, college grad and all